26 June 2012

Christine Assange interview with John Robles on Voice of Russia

Julian Assange's mother Christine gave an interview to John Robles on the Voice of Russia on 25 June 2012.

This is John Robles. You are listening to an interview with Christine Assange, the mother of Julian Assange.

John Robles: Hello Mam, how are you?

Christine Assange: I'm Ok. I'm, before you rang I was dealing with some journalists in Australia who decided - I don't know what the motive is, to make money, or they're jealous, or whatever it is - but to viciously smear Julian. Media, some elements of the media have been deliberately smearing Julian, and distorting the facts when they know it's so different. I am aware of some that are too lazy to actually investigate the facts, but now we're looking at an increase in deliberate smearing and misinforming the public about what's going on.

John Robles: Are there any points that are out there in the press that you would like to counter right now.

Christine Assange: OK, well, I suppose just the ones, for a start, in the last couple of days, and then I'll work backwards.  Julian didn't do a "runner" on people that backed his bail, they fully supported his application for asylum. Because asylum is actually a legal process internationally recognised as the last resort for someone seeking justice, and it continues that Julian is not trying to get out of being questioned by the prosecutor in Sweden. For the last 2 years he's been trying to get this prosecutor to interview him, and she's refused to interview him in Sweden, she refused both his offers to fly back in to be interviewed, and she has rejected his offers to be interviewed at some British Embassy or Scotland Yard.

It's actually a holding case for US extradition. She knows that if she interviews him, she's going to either to have to charge him, or drop the case, as she's got no evidence. And that's why she wants him back in Sweden to interview him, where she can lock him up. That's exactly what will happen: before being interviewed, once he is extradited, she will pull him straight into a remand prison on indefinite detention, thus assuring that he is there to be picked up by a US extradition warrant, and that he won't be able to continue his work with Wikileaks.

John Robles: What do you know about the sealed indictment they say that the US Grand Jury handed down?

Christine Assange: The proof of that is coming from when Anonymous hacked into the private global intelligence company based in Texas that has worldwide ...

John Robles: Stratfor?

Christine Assange: Stratfor, and one of the executive officers actually stated that there was a sealed indictment sitting there, waiting for the right moment to be served upon Julian. Comes via a US Grand Jury, and there's no proper legal process in obtaining that sealed indictment, there is no judge, there are 9 defence prosecutors, at the moment - there used to be 4 - and no defence material is allowed and the jury call is drawn from Alexandria, Virginia, which has the highest level of military contractors in the US.

John Robles: Can you tell our listeners anything about his asylum application with Ecuador?

Christine Assange: He has given a letter to the Ecuadorian President, and a submission was being made. The Ecuadorian President has made a number of statements He's stated that from what he can see, his comment was: 'if we treated Julian Assange half badly as he has been treated we would have been labelled as dictators and oppressors'. He's also said that he believes Julian has every right to ask for political asylum given the way that he's been treated.

Julian's very happy at the Ecuadorian Embassy. He's being treated extremely well. They're nice people, I've spoken to them as well, warm and a genuine sorts of people, none of the cold, officious bureaucracy which you get in the UK or Australia or with Sweden. He's sounding very relaxed and feeling much safer than he has for a long time

John Robles: Has anyone touched upon the matter, of him, if he is given asylum, how will he physically be able to fly to Ecuador?

Christine Assange: No, no-one's touched on that with me yet, I'm not sure how that's done. I'm not sure whether the US or the UK is going to respect the sovereignty of Ecuador or not. They don't, the US doesn't respect the sovereignty of other people's countries generally. I'd like to think that some way, there'd be some negotiations that would be respected, but I'm not hopeful.

John Robles: Do you think there is any possibility that the US may try to intercept him if he leaves the Embassy compound. Have you heard anything?

Christine Assange: Definitely, and I think that the US is quite capable of assassinating him. In fact, there's been some recent articles out of Washington, that were printed in our Australian papers, that Obama's completely out of control, and that he's drawing up personal lists of people that he wants to drone and assassinate, and he's refusing to actually discuss this with Congress or the justice system at all. He's running off like a loose cannon around the world

John Robles: He actually has his own kill list now, that he signs off every day?

Christine Assange: We call those people dictators.

John Robles: This is the first I've heard about anything regarding assassination

Christine Assange: In the first week of December 2010, when Julian was arrested and just prior to that, there were many commentators, in the US, who were calling for him to be garrotted, droned, assassinated, hunted down, and so on, it goes - talking in quite graphic terms - about what they would do to him, and the Stratfor e-mails talked about torturing him, when he'd gone into a US prison.

I suppose that we're seeing a rapid decline in our democracy at a frightening level. The American government is no longer in safe hands for the rest of the world or the American people, that people around the world need to tell their governments not to comply with American demands and intimidating and bullying their countries, and I think that the American people need to do something similar. They have to stand up for their civil rights, and we think that would be to stand up for Julian, and Wikileaks's right to operate as a free press. Julian is, remains uncharged anywhere in the world. The US Treasury has stated he hadn't broken no law.

John Robles: Do you know anything about the case of Manning?

Christine Assange: Bradley Manning - the last straw for him was when he was asked to arrest 15 Iraqi dissidents, civilian dissidents. Take them to the Iraqi police for torture, and when he asked what it was that they'd done, it was that they had run around with a piece of paper asking where their money had gone. That was referring to  the reconstruction money and that great crime of asking how the money was being wroughtered away

John Robles: It was US money.

Christine Assange: US money, yes, and this is something that the US government and the US contractors do regularly around the world. They make a lot of money out of  the wars, and then they make a whole lot of money out of reconstruction, and they also make a lot of money on reconstruction after disasters. And this is all money that's been wrongfully obtained, its often double quoting, as in Katrina, and this is fraud. It's fraud and intimidation on people's countries, and it needs to stop, and Wikileaks outed it. And rather than trying to shut Wikileaks up, the American government should be prosecuting those people involved.

John Robles: Right, exactly, instead they're going after the whistle blowers. I mean, everything's gone completely crazy in my opinion.

Christine Assange: The feeling mostly to me and other people, it's not actually what the Wikileaks cables revealed, but the response of the US government to it. That has shown us that we do not live in a democracy at all - it's facade -  it's police state art. Apparatus will be put over the democracy at any time they feel like it and they're doing it now, and it's frightening at the rate that it's creeping through people's countries. For example, Russia Today has been very good in showing what's been going on, but we can't get our own media to do the same thing.

John Robles: Yeah.

Christine Assange: Ok, no worries.

John Robles: Ok, thank you very much. I really, really appreciate it.

Christine Assange: I really, really appreciate it too. A chance to get some truth out.

John Robles: Stay strong down there. 

Christine Assange: I will, don't worry.

John Robles: That was an interview with Christine Assange. Thanks for listening.